Fair mormon view of the hebrews vs books

View of the hebrews claim not present in book of mormon no revelation. The subject is large enough to engage a more extended discussion. Debunking fairmormon letter to a ces director book of mormon. It is claimed that a 19th century work by ethan smith, view of the hebrews. For almost 200 years now, critics have been scrambling to prove that the book of mormon is nothing but a work of fiction. Roberts conducted an exhaustive comparison and analysis of these two books and concluded there is merit to this criticism. Lets face it, they say, joseph smith was an uneducated young man living in poverty with almost no access to books, and he dictated the entire text of the book of mormon in 63 days. View of the hebrews was published in 1823 and a second edition was published in 1825. The book of mormon view of the hebrews the king james bible the book of mormon tells the story of inspired seers and prophets. The bible tells the story of inspired seers and prophets. But the differences between these books are very significant.

These books have a number of teachings that closely parallel the theological issues addressed in. Mormon views on evolution are evolving, says biologist. Several commentators on mormon history and the book of mormon, including lds church general authority b. What are the similarities and differences between view of the hebrews and the book of mormon. And the days of miracles are thought to be past 127. The best evidence that argues against view of the hebrews as the primary source for the book of mormon is a reading of the text itself, yet the ability to access that text had become more difficult over the years. But this is information which joseph smith could not have gotten from view of the hebrews, because ethan did not discuss it. Book of mormonauthorship theoriesview of the hebrewsnon. The second chapter of the view of the hebrews is entitled the certain restoration of judah and israel, and in this section is quoted nearly all the references to isaiah that are referred to, but quoted more fully, in the book of mormon. The above donut chart shows percentages of the book of mormon section of letter to a ces director that fairmormon is in agreement, disagreement, and neutral on if one assumes that fairmormons undisputed silence is acceptance of the facts, fairmormon agrees with 62. Interestingly, oliver cowdery, scribe, and later witness of the book of mormon, lived in poultney for 22 years until 1825. Ethan smith was a minister of a congregational church in poultney, vermont from 1821 to 1826 when he wrote view of the hebrews.

The view of the hebrews theory became more popular as the availability of the book itself diminished. The early church father clement quoted from the book of hebrews in a. One of the mormon evidences is to ask you to consider if joseph smith could have fabricated the book of mormon. The view of the hebrews theory was examined in detail by b. Clicking on a chapter will show you the text of that chapter of hebrews in the bible king james version. Did joseph smith plagiarize from view of the hebrews when writing the book of mormon by jeff lindsay.

An examination of the claims raised against joseph smith and the church in the ces letter demonstrates inconsistencies within their own body of accusations as well as with documented history the ces letter portrays joseph smith as a fraud, with a variety of evidences and claims. Book of mormon research topics az life after ministry. View of the hebrews flooded the area in which joseph smith lived. Hebrews is one of the most significant books in the new testament for understanding the relationship between the old and new covenants. Is the book of mormon plagiarized from view of the hebrews. For almost a century critics of the authenticity of the book of mormon have claimed that view of the hebrews, first published by ethan smith in 1823 2d ed. These dissimilarities, which far outnumber any alleged similarities, are too many to list here. For comparison purposes, we chose an arbitrary book from joseph smiths time, pride and prejudice, and compared it to the book of mormon.

In the 20th century, mormon scholars noted the parallels between view of the hebrews and the book of. Similarities with the view of the hebrews if you follow any of the above links, please respect the rules of reddit and dont vote in the other threads. Oliver cowdery, one of the book of mormon witnesses, lived in poultney when view of the hebrews was published. The book of mormon makes reference to this event in history, in the first and second books of nephi. The author ethan smith was the pastor of the religious congregation in which. View of the hebrews denies new revelation or miracles. A pastor who lived near cowdery, ethan smith, had written view of the hebrews, another work that has been posited as a source for the book of mormon. Is the lds view that the bible is corrupted and untrustworthy a fair and accurate assessment.

Mormon insights posted was paul the author of book of hebrews. Antimormon writers were most prolific during the postbrodie era. Did josephs changes to the bible restore parts that were lost from the original manuscripts. Despite the churchs claims, the roots of mormonism, rather than being ancient and old world, are often instead nineteenth century and very american. After doing a chapterbychapter analysis of the book of mormon, i found that, according to persuitte, less than 4. Ethan smith, pastor of the congregational church in poultney, vermont, argued that the native americans were scattered israelites who would soon be restored into the gospel fold. Would you respond to the theories that the book of mormon is based on the spaulding manuscript or on ethan smiths view of the hebrews.

Joseph smiths probable source of the book of mormon. In this response to gp chapter 10 we provide an overview and short evaluation of each of the major mormon scriptures. We have been exceedingly gratified in taking a view of the hebrews, through the glass that mr. Josephs plagiarism in book of mormon and other revelations. Carmack compares the book of mormon syntax to four books from josephs time period. The book of mormon, also has references to the same subject in. Southerton of canberra, australia, peels back the faith promoting fantasies about these pilgrims in a dish and their loathsome offspring, the lamanites, darkskinned american indians. Debunking fairmormon letter to a ces director book of. View of the hebrews talks of indian traditions that state that their fathers were able to foretell the future and control nature.

Did view of the hebrews influence themes in joseph smith. Occasionally, they will promote some type of archaeological artifact that is similar to something built or written by hebrew people to try to validate their claim that the book of mormon people were indeed from the land of israel. Book of mormonauthorship theoriesview of the hebrews. The prevailing theory of the day was the spalding theory, which quickly lost credibility upon the discovery of an actual spalding manuscript in 1884 which bore no resemblance to the book of mormon. Its not so much a question of borrowing as of the existence in the. This book is a faithful and accurate reproduction of the 1825 second edition of view of the hebrews.

Is view of the hebrews a source for the book of mormon. Welch listed some 84 differences between the two books. Native americans, dna, and the mormon church signature books, research scientist and former mormon bishop, simon g. Did joseph smith plagiarize from view of the hebrews when. View of the hebrews, or, the tribes of isreal in america and millions of other books are available for amazon kindle.

Three of them have elements that more closely match the book of mormon than the fourth book. There are a number of helpful commentaries on the book of hebrews, and the following are five of the best. The view of the hebrews has many references to both the scattering and gathering of israel in the last days. I recommend reading what mormon church historian b. The view of the hebrews, has numerous references to the gathering and scattering of israel in the last days. Similarities between the book of mormon and view of the hebrews book by kurt. The storyline outline for the book of mormon probably came from ethan smiths 1823 new york novel, view of the hebrews. I think that joseph smith may have had ixtlilxochitl and view of the hebrews from which to work. Ethan smiths view of the hebrews, published seven years before the book of mormon is thought to be source material for joseph smiths book of mormon. Ethan smith republished view of the hebrews, revised and enlarged, in 1835. It contained books like the rule of the community, the damascus covenant, the war scroll, the midrash on melchizedek, as well as sections of 1 enoch called the book of the watchers and the book of dreams. Roberts found out about the book of mormon and view of the hebrews.

Fairmormon is a nonprofit organization dedicated to providing welldocumented answers to criticisms of the doctrine, practice, and history of the church of jesus christ of latterday saints. There is evidence of other parallels with josephus in the book of mormon, which joseph smith could not have known about by reading view of the hebrews. Published 1823, first edition 1825, second edition 1830, first edition location vermont poultney, rutland county note. Was the view of the hebrews theory of book of mormon.

These are all of the chapters of the book of hebrews. Similarities between the book of mormon and view of the hebrews book duration. In the book the view of the hebrews, what counterarguments. Joseph created a biblical setting for the americas by his selective use of the bible and the misconceptions embodied in ethans publication. As for the claim that most critics find the book of mormons parallels to books like view of the hebrews less than persuasive of borrowing, i think givens is not framing the issue very well here to be fair, id say the same of most others, on both sides of the debate. Scholars of the bible generally conclude that, as one scholar is quoted in the post as saying, the epistle of paul to the hebrews was not an epistle. Learn more view of the hebrews, or, the tribes of isreal in america 2nd edition. Is the book of mormon like any other nineteenth century book. In an article published in the times and seasons on june 1, 1842, joseph quoted view of the hebrews in support of the book of mormon.

Palmer, an insiders view of mormon origins salt lake city. To put this into perspective, we found that the late war contained more rare 4gram connections to the book of mormon than 99. However, when these accusations are strung together to form an historical narrative, it is fraught with internal. For years, mormons have been looking for archaeological evidence to support their book of mormon.

Book of mormon difficulties, contradictions and explanations. A contemporary mormon view is that these civilizations rose and fell in mesoamerica. A sidebyside comparison of ethan smiths work with joe smiths bom gives us insight as to where joe probably got some of his ideas from for his book of mormon. Hebrews bible book with full chapters king james version. The excommunication of the hebrews deeply affecting 154 2. Ethan smiths book proposes that the american indians were the lost tribes of israel and has several. New evidence furnished of the divinity of the bible 169 appendix. As one example, nothing in the view of the hebrews explains the rich semitic complexity of the book of mormon. Discussion regarding the historicity of the book of mormon often focuses on archaeological issues, some of which relate to the large size and the long time span of the civilizations mentioned in the book. Similarities between the book of mormon and view of the. A look at the major differences between the view of the hebrews claims that the native americans are the lost ten tribes of israel, and the book of mormon claiming that the nephites are. The book of mormon was emphatically a new revelation, and it insists that miracles continue today mormon 9.

The theory the joseph smith plagiarized view of the hebrews was never advanced during his lifetime. View of the hebrews is an 1823 book written by ethan smith, a united states congregationalist minister, who argued that native americans were descended from the ten lost tribes of israel. View of the hebrews and the book of mormon book of. Similarities with the view of the hebrews rmormonscholar book of mormon issue 8. Despite a generally favorable press toward the church during many of these years, of all antimormon books, novels, pamphlets, tracts, and flyers published in english before 1990, more than half were published between 1960 and 1990 and a third of them between 1970 and 1990. In the few cases where view of the hebrews has something in common with the book of mormon regarding matters not treated in those other sources, the similarities are superficial only. In my opinion it is the best fraternity that has come to my attention with regard to the origin of the book of mormon, mr. A very short introduction to the book of mormon daves. To understand the origins of the mormon church, one must be knowledgeable of the contents of the bible and of view of the hebrews. Regardless of the human hand that held the pen, the holy spirit of god is the divine author of all scripture 2 timothy 3. Would you respond to the theories that the book of mormon is based. Some critics claim that joseph smith copied much of the structure and content of the book of mormon from the 1823 book view of the hebrews by ethan smith no relation to joseph smith.

For example, the story about amalickiah and lehonti at mount antipas. Some have suggested that the source for much of the history and theology in the book of mormon was an early nineteenthcentury book entitled view of the hebrews, by ethan smith. Criticisms related to view of the hebrews and the book of mormon. For example, they misquote the book of mormons account of samuel the lamanite to make it sound like the view of the hebrews account of jesus ben ananias many of the parallels are unique to the second. It was first published in 1823 the book of mormon was published 6 years later in 1829. This was a relatively common view during the early nineteenth century, as most europeans and americans had a view of history as biblical. Oliver cowdery was a thirdcousin of lucy mack smith, joseph smiths mother. This video goes over the many similarities between the two books. If ethan smith suspected or even wished to charge that the book of mormon plagiarized or purloined from his work, it is strange that he proceeded as if there was no relationship between the two books. The intent in publishing it has been to make it available to all. Critics often ignore the many dissimilarities between the view of the hebrews and the book of mormon. There are 34 parallels between the book of mormon and the view of the hebrews, as acknowledged by former church historian b. Roberts took the position of examining the book of mormon from a critical perspective in order to alert the general authorities to possible future avenues of attack by critics.